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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Harvestdancer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    You somehow neglect all the meat.
    Can't neglect what's not there.

    You need to open a legal dictionary. Legal terms are very well defined there. They aren't the definitions you agree with, but they are the actual definitions.
    Thinking a government can't commit ACTS OF TERRORISM is an unusually stupid idea.

    I was being very mild.

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    The foundation of human morality is that all rules apply equally to all people.

    There are not one set of rules for some people and another set of rules for other people.

    There are not crimes some can commit that others cannot.

    But this is just morality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    The foundation of human morality is that all rules apply equally to all people.

    There are not one set of rules for some people and another set of rules for other people.

    There are not crimes some can commit that others cannot.

    But this is just morality.
    That is why when a three year old grabs a candy bar off a shop shelf and eats it before the parent can stop him, you haul that three year old to jail as a shoplifter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Harvestdancer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    You somehow neglect all the meat.
    Can't neglect what's not there.

    You need to open a legal dictionary. Legal terms are very well defined there. They aren't the definitions you agree with, but they are the actual definitions.
    Thinking a government can't commit ACTS OF TERRORISM is an unusually stupid idea.

    I was being very mild.
    Why do you keep saying the US committed acts of terrorism by the invasion and removal of a brutal dictator but completely ignore the brutality of Communism that was responsible for the death of perhaps 20 million Russians [ a conservative estimate ] alone under the jackboot of Stalin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Harvestdancer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    The foundation of human morality is that all rules apply equally to all people.

    There are not one set of rules for some people and another set of rules for other people.

    There are not crimes some can commit that others cannot.

    But this is just morality.
    That is why when a three year old grabs a candy bar off a shop shelf and eats it before the parent can stop him, you haul that three year old to jail as a shoplifter.
    Shoplifting laws do not apply to a child in their home.

    Parents can force out a child that does not obey at 18. Until then they have a legal obligation.

    This morality stuff is difficult for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post

    Thinking a government can't commit ACTS OF TERRORISM is an unusually stupid idea.

    I was being very mild.
    Why do you keep saying the US committed acts of terrorism by the invasion and removal of a brutal dictator but completely ignore the brutality of Communism that was responsible for the death of perhaps 20 million Russians [ a conservative estimate ] alone under the jackboot of Stalin!
    The US did a whole hell of lot more than reach in and pluck out a dictator.

    It killed thousands of the innocent. It terrorized millions. Millions fled their homes. The US rounded up innocent people in the middles of the night and tortured them.

    But the US also was responsible for Hussein being there. The US gave Hussein a lot of support. Reagan took Iraq off the terrorist state list (yes nations can commit terrorism) after he gassed the Kurds with US helicopters and gas. The US supported Hussein in the war with Iran. The US also supported Iran so what does that tell you?

    Communism did not kill anybody.

    Dictators singing about Communism did that.

    The inability to see a dictator seems to be an American problem.

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    State Sponsors of Terrorism
    Countries determined by the Secretary of State to have repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism are designated pursuant to three laws: section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act, section 40 of the Arms Export Control Act, and section 620A of the Foreign Assistance Act. Taken together, the four main categories of sanctions resulting from designation under these authorities include restrictions on U.S. foreign assistance; a ban on defense exports and sales; certain controls over exports of dual use items; and miscellaneous financial and other restrictions.
    Yes little children there is no Santa Clause.

    And nations can commit terrorism.

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    Your love of government prevents you from admitting that governments can commit war crimes.

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    When a stronger nation invades a weaker nation that is not invading anyone it is state terrorism not war.

    When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan it was terrorism.

    When the US invaded South Vietnam it was terrorism.

    When the US attacked Iraq it was terrorism.

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    It is deeply immoral to let your love of government prevent you from acknowledging when it commits war crimes.

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